Iksar in Freeport?

[Athuzael]

Well I was talking to an old friend (we were guildmates in an all-iksar RP guild on FV for a long time) and he said he feared iksar would end up in Freeport in EQ2.

Now, he`s a little too hardcore when it comes to iksar (even said he wouldn`t play if iksar were lumped together with softskins) but the question is... knowing the lore and society of iksar, do you feel it`s a little far-fetched to say the least that iksar would be sharing the same livingspace as softskins?

Sure iksar are evil, but I honestly don`t see them in the same league as tier`dal or ogres. They hate everyone equally, it`s a part of their culture and mentality...not sure if 500 years would change that or not. Just hoping that devs come up with a good explanation for this.

[Proteus]

Since you can only start in Qeynos or Freeport, it is likely that is where they will end up. On the up side, it's not like Iksar will be living right next door to some ogre or something, the cities are supposed to be MASSIVE, and it may very well happen that each race has its own section of the city.

[Soeja]

A lot has happened in 500 years I'm sure. And Iksar were like that during the Ruins of Kunark because the game lore said that the place had only recently been found. They were xenephobic because they had never really ran into any of the softskins before. I'm sure there are still a lot of Iksar that hate everyone else, and those are probably the ones that founded the city of Visk (I think that's what it's called.) You'll start out in Freeport, but could just head over there.

[Hannar]

The world has changed massively. Kunark was effectively destroyed, so iksar had no choice but to flee. You could probably make an argument that they would have likely set up a new city of their own on Antonica somewhere, but I guess SOE will have some lore to explain why they didn't (outside of the problems that would result from giving a single race their own city).

[Athuzael]

Good explanations on this thread. Yes 500 years would mean alot and in my time I`ve seen roleplaying iksar who were friends / companions of other softskins (with one notorious famous iksar on FV betraying the Empire and running off with a dark elf enchantress...err)

So yes, if players themselves can see iksar making connections with softskins, why not... I`ve always roleplayed a loyalist, but that doesn`t necessarily mean that all iksar should behave in that matter.

Looking forward to hearing more about Visk

[Moorgard]

[gornotck]

That is great to know. What the world lacks is enough self-righteous, uptight, arrogant people who hate you for all that you represent, but have to be with you because there is nowhere else.

[Athuzael]

Thanks for the explanation and info Moorgard!

Forwarding this thread to my hardcore iksar friend, I`m sure he`ll find it interesting

Best of luck with EQ2,
Sythilix Yz`ulqun - Prophet of Cabilis

[Apkami]

Good question, nice answer. I like threads about lore.

Now I wonder if iksar will like some races more than others. I see the different races falling into different classes of evil. Humans and Gnomes are kind of selfish evil where they are just looking to increase their power at the expense of others. Ogres and trolls are kind a brutish evil where they want to smash everything and destroy, but without real forethought or design. Dark Elves and Iksar are more true evil, where they want to dominate the world, but they will also cold-heartedly plan and scheme to destroy entire races in their vindictiveness and their visciousness. They desire a mix of complete control and well-planned eradiction of certain inferior races. Of course, this is just how I view things, I am sure tons of people on these boards and the devs will likely see it differently.

From my perspective, however, the different kinds of evil should make certain races be more friendly to those of the same kind of evil. For instance using EQLive faction ideas the iksar might be indifferent to the dark elves because they share the same kind of evil, but they might dubious to humans and gnomes because they see their evil as nothing more than a power grab and thus show disdain for their trifling goals.

Just tossing around some wild speculation.

I did like how an earlier poster mentioned the Iksar city of Visk may be inhabited by the Iksar that refused to deal with the soft-skins at all. I wonder if they will welcome Iksar from Freeport and see them as brothers or if they will be seen as traitors for dealing with the other races. Perhaps only Iksar can gain faction with them and they have to perform a certain number of spying quests in Freeport before they will be accepted by the Iksar city.

One final note is a pet peeve of mine, whenever I think about cities, I think about the Neriak Foreign Quarter being overrun with those pitiful halflings. I really hope that they can be driven out and Neriak reclaimed. I think the lore will blame the trolls and their shoddy defense for letting the halflings get that far, but I truly hope a Dark Elven counterattack with Iksar allies can remove the pests permanently. Ridding all of Norrath of halflings should be something that both the Iksar and the Dark Elves would see as a necessary, if menial task.

Halflings

I cannot wait to dive into all of the lore that the game will have and the explanations of how things have changed and why. Damn I wish this game was out now.

Apkami

[Kryogen]

[Itzena]

[Aldrak]

[Athuzael]

[Control Freak]

It will be interesting how the GM's run some events based off the hatred Iksars have for others (and Visa Versa).

Maybe have a Rumble in the city like that from the Movie "The Gangs of New York" where the groups would meet up at the five points have have a huge bloody brawl.

[RihkotixInvisifists]

iksar, bitter and angry to share space with trolls... sound slike me on this message board. good to know im already in character.

[Lycrist of Lanys]

[Lavinia_Savant]

about time someone mentioned the hardships faced by high elves living in a city run by humans, dirty and feral creatures that grow beards... bleh!


Tunare, Tunare
upon you child take pity
and help rebuild Felwithe
your children miss their homes...
don't make us live with gnomes!

[Kotaru]

Bwahahhahahahaah Rot in hell High-Elves!

On further note, I think it took alot of pride out of iksar when staying with humans, they probally are divided up in sections, so your next door neighbor wont be a troll or anything like that.

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[Lavinia_Savant]

[Solari]

This is an interesting concept... I'm sure there are also races that are thriving on all the interaction.

[Creature963]

Wow, the Iksar sure have fallen. From ruling almost the entire continent of Kunark to living with softskins. At least they haven't resorted to living with those elves.

Iksar will most likely live in the farthest corner of Freeport, with lots of water passages and things like that. Since everyone knows the Iksar just hate everyone else, including some in the Iksar race. And everyone hates them back.

[Agraza]

if you define encroaching forces from the sarnak, freeport, and faydwer as ruling an entire continent.

and depending on odus's classification then so did the erudites rule an entire continent.

[Gannor]

He was refering to the days of Sebilis, when the Sathir dynasty (Venril -> Rile -> Atreb -> Ganak) ruled. back then, there was not a thing on Kunark that did not fear the Iksar, and only the Dragons were free.

[Creature963]

That's right, I don't mean in the days of EQ. They use to be extremely powerful with all of Kunark in their claws, with only a few pockets of dragons that stood against them. The empire fell though and now all they have is Cabilis. In EQ2 they will have even less.

Doh, no more Cabilis. That was my favorite city to. Even though all the Iksar were assholes...but they're evil so it's all good.

[Xxhira]

We'll just have to see how the story will unfold. I am sure that the iksar already have plans to re-create their lost empire and enslave all who opose them, softskin and iksar alike! No matter what the extent of modern culteral influences surrounding the iksar, they will always remain savage at heart!